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From: <MichaelL_at_frogware.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:47:00 -0400
I wasn't sure if you guys were still monitoring the thread.
----- Forwarded by Michael Lenaghan/frogware inc. on 04/27/2004 05:46 PM
-----
starkit-bounces_at_equi4.com wrote on 04/27/2004 02:40:21 PM:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Tom Krehbiel wrote:
> >
> > My vision for the future is this:
> >
> > * The TCT invite both Uwe Zdun and Will Duquette to become members of
> > the TCT and give them the responsibility of adding an OO system to the
> > core.
> >
> > * A Tcl/Tk version number is established as the point of insertion for
> > the new OO capability.
> >
> > * XOtcl is selected as the base OO system and is added to core Tcl.
> >
> > * Will works with Uwe and developments an OO mega widget system for Tk
> > and it is added to core Tk.
>
> (stepping out of the shadows for a moment...)
>
> I think this is an awesome list of suggestions. OO-in-Tcl has been
> talked about seemingly forever. For a while it looked like ITcl would
> be the implementation that ended the debate, but it's obvious there is
> no longer a champion (with spare time, anyway) to make it happen.
>
> This situation reminds me of my Red Cross first aid training of many
> moons ago. The instructor taught that if you're surrounded by onlookers
> and need help, don't say "Hey, somebody call an ambulance" because
> everyone is hoping or expecting someone else will do it. Instead, point
> a finger directly at someone, look them in the eye and say "You! You
> call an ambulance!".
>
> I think we've been crying "Somebody call an ambulance" for quite some
> time now. If Will and Uwe are up to the task, I think they should be
> given the power to make it happen for 8.5. I'll even toss my hat into
> the ring. I don't have the time to dig into the XOTcl or SNIT internals
> to make it happen, but if XOTcl and SNIT or a SNIT successor made it
> into the core I'd find time to write a full blown, real world
> megawidget example using them and have it ready to ship at the same
> time.
>
> --
> Bryan Oakley
> bryan at bitmover dot com
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:47:00 -0400
I wasn't sure if you guys were still monitoring the thread.
----- Forwarded by Michael Lenaghan/frogware inc. on 04/27/2004 05:46 PM
-----
starkit-bounces_at_equi4.com wrote on 04/27/2004 02:40:21 PM:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Tom Krehbiel wrote:
> >
> > My vision for the future is this:
> >
> > * The TCT invite both Uwe Zdun and Will Duquette to become members of
> > the TCT and give them the responsibility of adding an OO system to the
> > core.
> >
> > * A Tcl/Tk version number is established as the point of insertion for
> > the new OO capability.
> >
> > * XOtcl is selected as the base OO system and is added to core Tcl.
> >
> > * Will works with Uwe and developments an OO mega widget system for Tk
> > and it is added to core Tk.
>
> (stepping out of the shadows for a moment...)
>
> I think this is an awesome list of suggestions. OO-in-Tcl has been
> talked about seemingly forever. For a while it looked like ITcl would
> be the implementation that ended the debate, but it's obvious there is
> no longer a champion (with spare time, anyway) to make it happen.
>
> This situation reminds me of my Red Cross first aid training of many
> moons ago. The instructor taught that if you're surrounded by onlookers
> and need help, don't say "Hey, somebody call an ambulance" because
> everyone is hoping or expecting someone else will do it. Instead, point
> a finger directly at someone, look them in the eye and say "You! You
> call an ambulance!".
>
> I think we've been crying "Somebody call an ambulance" for quite some
> time now. If Will and Uwe are up to the task, I think they should be
> given the power to make it happen for 8.5. I'll even toss my hat into
> the ring. I don't have the time to dig into the XOTcl or SNIT internals
> to make it happen, but if XOTcl and SNIT or a SNIT successor made it
> into the core I'd find time to write a full blown, real world
> megawidget example using them and have it ready to ship at the same
> time.
>
> --
> Bryan Oakley
> bryan at bitmover dot com
>
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