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Re: [Xotcl] Xotcl SOAP/Ramblings..
From: Uwe Zdun <uwe.zdun_at_wu-wien.ac.at>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:02:08 +0200
The SOAP integration on my homepage is a simple example how to
integrate TclSOAP (with tclhttpd ... it should be no problem to
use another web server) and XOTcl. This is not intended as production
code ... I prepared it for a student project. It worked for the
students (they have done a web calendar with it). Yet, it can only handle
generic invocations and more work would to be done to provide a more
complete integration. The disadvantage of this solution is that TclSOAP
is not the fastest variant ... I don't know in how far that matters
compared to other web service solutions, web services are slow anyway.
two other solutions are possible, writing a new SOAP implementation (as
Gustaf suggested e.g. with tdom) ... that's a lot of work ... the word
"simple" in SOAP should not be taken literaly.
or you integrate an existing solution in another language in Tcl or Tcl in it
respectively.
--uwe
On Thursday 15 May 2003 11:17, Nicolas Boretos wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> We are at the onset of a Web based project to be built on, at least the
> current thinking is,
> on XML/SOAP. Basically, a Web browser interface calling SOAP methods on
> a SOAP server.
> Initial trials using tcl soap along with the the package's SOAP::domain
> stuff under tclhttpd seem
> promising, if possibly a bit cludgey and slow...We also work with
> Aolserver, but have not looked at ns_soap..
>
> Most of the application are requests for Eurosta data (living in a
> postgres db), calculations, and
> generating charts, pies, graphs, XML reports etc.
>
> I was wondering as to what efforts, if any are being done along these
> lines. I found some tclhttpd/soap etc wrappings
> on Mr. Zdun's site, but could not really get these to work (cleanly, at
> least). I also found the link below but have not
>
> http://nm.wu-wien.ac.at/Lehre/oo2/04-39.html
>
> had a chance to look at it.
>
> Is there anything newer/other along these lines available? Most of our
> thinking is to eventually move towards your
> ActiWeb/Active Web Objects, but we are still in the exploration phase.
> I also have a gut feeling that tis project will grow/change as time
> goes, which infers maintainability issues, which is
> why we are shying away from our intial tcl/tclsoap approach and more
> towards XOTcl/objects....
>
> regards,
>
> nicolas boretos
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:02:08 +0200
The SOAP integration on my homepage is a simple example how to
integrate TclSOAP (with tclhttpd ... it should be no problem to
use another web server) and XOTcl. This is not intended as production
code ... I prepared it for a student project. It worked for the
students (they have done a web calendar with it). Yet, it can only handle
generic invocations and more work would to be done to provide a more
complete integration. The disadvantage of this solution is that TclSOAP
is not the fastest variant ... I don't know in how far that matters
compared to other web service solutions, web services are slow anyway.
two other solutions are possible, writing a new SOAP implementation (as
Gustaf suggested e.g. with tdom) ... that's a lot of work ... the word
"simple" in SOAP should not be taken literaly.
or you integrate an existing solution in another language in Tcl or Tcl in it
respectively.
--uwe
On Thursday 15 May 2003 11:17, Nicolas Boretos wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> We are at the onset of a Web based project to be built on, at least the
> current thinking is,
> on XML/SOAP. Basically, a Web browser interface calling SOAP methods on
> a SOAP server.
> Initial trials using tcl soap along with the the package's SOAP::domain
> stuff under tclhttpd seem
> promising, if possibly a bit cludgey and slow...We also work with
> Aolserver, but have not looked at ns_soap..
>
> Most of the application are requests for Eurosta data (living in a
> postgres db), calculations, and
> generating charts, pies, graphs, XML reports etc.
>
> I was wondering as to what efforts, if any are being done along these
> lines. I found some tclhttpd/soap etc wrappings
> on Mr. Zdun's site, but could not really get these to work (cleanly, at
> least). I also found the link below but have not
>
> http://nm.wu-wien.ac.at/Lehre/oo2/04-39.html
>
> had a chance to look at it.
>
> Is there anything newer/other along these lines available? Most of our
> thinking is to eventually move towards your
> ActiWeb/Active Web Objects, but we are still in the exploration phase.
> I also have a gut feeling that tis project will grow/change as time
> goes, which infers maintainability issues, which is
> why we are shying away from our intial tcl/tclsoap approach and more
> towards XOTcl/objects....
>
> regards,
>
> nicolas boretos
>
>
>
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Uwe Zdun
Department of Information Systems, Vienna University of Economics
Phone: +43 1 313 36 4796, Fax: +43 1 313 36 746
zdun_at_{xotcl,computer,acm}.org, uwe.zdun_at_wu-wien.ac.at